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Jammer

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UPDATED: Carson Park dorm a no go

Jammer

I'd like to see the entire "island" of Carson Park become an outdoor hippie dorm.

UWEC: A True CAMP-us... hahahaahahahaahaahahah... oy.

The Chippewa Valley should have a car-free…

Jammer

Toddy,

I never said not driving was my aim, goal, reason for posting here. I admitted I drive a lot, sometimes when I shouldn't. What I am advocating is that we all realize that driving everywhere isn't always the best decision, that there are consequences to that mentality, and ultimately there are other options for transportation.

I'm not going to force you to bike, but I will probably question your intelligence for taking your gas guzzling truck just few blocks to the local "gin mill", and then bitching about the [insert something about the economy, global warming, liberals, "hippies", etc.]

Not saying you specifically do that, Toddy. However, there are those who do, and the aim of an event like this is to help educate them and the masses, as I explained before.

Thus this whole discussion: You and others had a knee-jerk reaction to closing a street for a bike event, which is unfounded and based on your personal beliefs about bikes and bike culture. The exact thing an event like this is hoping to enlighten you to.


Toddy, I hope you check out Tour d'Eau Claire as well. Even if you're not a hearty biker, I hope you'll come and check it out.

The Chippewa Valley should have a car-free…

Jammer

Toddy,

The economic benefit argument I directed at you should have been directed elsewhere, as Nick was the one who made that comment, not you. I apologize for that. I'm sorry.

My ultimate point with those facts was to point out that the people who are concerned about the economy over the environment will be happy to know that, in fact, biking is great for both in the long run.

Another thing to point out in your "if you want to bike, bike, if you want to drive, drive" argument, is that often times some police in this city don't know the laws for bikes, and it creates a sort of one-sided view on road use in the eyes of the law. If suddenly there were a lot of people to start biking on the roads (more than there is currently), the cops would pull them over and give them a ticket. How do I know that? It already happened, last fall. The tickets were thrown out, after the bikers went to court. I'm sure some of them can supply more information, as a few post here regularly.

The whole idea of this event is about biker awareness, Toddy. Motorists don't know how to treat bikers, bikers don't know how to treat motorists, cops don't know bike laws like they should, and a lot of people are unaware of the benefits, beyond health, that biking has to offer. Therefore, an event like this, just like The International Fall Festival or Summerfest, where Barstow Street is closed down, is worth closing it down again.

What really bothers me is that you're claiming to be an open-minded centrist, but your thinking seems far less open-minded than what one would expect from someone claiming that title. Stop thinking about this as "cars vs. bikes" and try and view it as an informative event that makes our city a bit more livable, and a lot more social.

Maybe you're never going to bike like some of the hardcore bikers, but maybe that guy who drives his truck a block to the gin mill just needs a little push to get on a bike and realize how much fun and beneficial it can be.

The Chippewa Valley should have a car-free…

Jammer

Toddy,

As I've stated, you've posted ideas that are statistically proven to be false as reasons to not do this car day.

It's pretty clear some of your stated views are unfounded and uninformed, and frankly, I'm a bit confused that if you help run an organic farm, why you would essentially knock an idea inspired by the environment.

The Chippewa Valley should have a car-free…

Jammer

Toddy - there's actually ample reasons to cut down on motoring traffic in city centers. It increases public transit use, decreases urban pollution, and has a tendency to actually create economic benefit for businesses that are located on car-free roads, not to mention the aesthetic, community-building benefits creating urban malls has on a city.

New York City has slowly been converting intersections into urban, grassy malls as they attempt to cut down on city traffic, as have other large cities. This may not be useful for Eau Claire yet, however, but I'm using it to point out several things:

A.) You're spouting off ideas that aren't entirely true - closing off roads to motor vehicles is not necessarily bad for an economy, as I've just explained.

B.) We aren't hippies. If anything, we're sick, sick Capitalists. Biking saves me money - on gas, on health care, on car repairs, etc. It also saves the city tons of money, primarily on road construction costs - less traffic, less repairs. Money saved, in my case, is often money spent. Locally, might I add.

C.) This isn't about being green. I'm not always "green", as I've already stated. I love bikes, yes, but I also drive. A lot. In fact, it's quicker for me to bike to work than it is to drive, but there are still days, even in the summer, where I drive the half mile to work. I'm not perfect.

D.) What if it IS about going green? What's wrong with that?

Biking is not an absolute, but it is definitely going to be a necessity for many in the coming years, if it's not already. The thing is, what the pro-bike community here, such as Pookums, Maria and myself have offered, are some pretty stunning facts. If you choose to ignore them, and continue to play the bit about "being ignorant is my American right" crap, then fine, so be it. Justify your skewed view on transportation, going green, and hippies any way you'd like, but don't ruin it for the rest of us who are looking for progressive solutions to realistic problems.

If I sound antagonistic, I apologize, but you've offered nothing here except uninformed, close-minded opinions about a topic you seem to have done little research in, and in the process, insulted a progressive magazine for being progressive.

I appreciate that you've kept this discussion going, because it helps illustrate the genuine concern you and the general public may have about events like this, but I urge you to seek out more information about successful urban planning, rather than spout opinions with no basis other than limited personal experience. We're all guilty of doing that from time to time (especially myself), but it's important that on big issues such as this, that we all seek to find creative solutions. I urge you to check out things like Good Magazine and Inhabitat, which talk about urban problems and solutions regularly. They both have blogs that are quick reads, and pretty darn interesting to boot. Lotta pretty pictures, too.

Best of the Chippewa Valley Reader Poll…

Jammer

I'm not saying Clairemont sucks.

All I'm saying is, I've been to Tomah, and that at least has a Long John Silver's, which most of you folks would probably love.

So before you start defending Clairemont, check out Tomah. THEN, when you've had enough fried fish that you smell like fried fish, check out Downtown's scene.

But maybe wait a day, until that fried fish smell has wafted away.

The Chippewa Valley should have a car-free…

Jammer

Hey Toddy, and the Winter Naysayers, check out Copenhagenize.

Anyone else interested in reading about a huge city that manages to have a fantastic bike structure in an area of the world that, in January, has 25 degree weather with 1 hour of daylight per day, should also check it out.

Look, I bike a lot. I also drive a lot. I'm the first to admit I toss my bike in the house come winter, and I realize it's not entirely feasible for everyone to bike year-round. But that's not what we're asking.

We're asking for ONE DAY, and all you can do is bitch about it like my unimaginative grandparents (in retrospect, they'd probably support this more than most of the naysayers here, and that REALLY says something).

The Chippewa Valley should have a car-free…

Jammer

OH NOES! THINK OF THE BUSINESSES ON ONE DAY!


Rather than think one-step outside the box, and perhaps try and APPEAL to those commuters on bikes during this one date, people in Eau Claire will just bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch and bitch some more about a cool idea, as per Nick's comment.

Guess what? People on bikes usually have MORE money to spend on stuff, since, gasp, they're not paying for fuel and expensive car repairs!

Furthermore, there's actually a benefit to local economies when people bike (one study in Copenhagen calculated it at 37 cents a mile), whereas those who drive actually cost the local economy money (13 cents a mile).

Thanks, Mr. Imagination!

Tasty Dishes

Jammer

KFC has the best sandwich bread made out of chicken instead of flour. Hands down.

Give it a 10

Jammer

All I can say is "wow" to the two comments below this.. impressive egos, young gents.

A sad month for Nickleback fans

Jammer

What's amazing to me is that the area that helped inspire one of the biggest indie acts in recent years (Bon Iver), as well as bands like Megafaun, The Daredevil Christopher Wright, Laarks, The Gentle Guest, Farms, etc. doesn't even get to listen to these bands on their own radio stations.

We have some of the best young jazz musicians in the nation coming out of the local high schools, and UWEC is well-known nationally for their music program.

And, yet, we have radio stations all playing the same BAD music, on repeat. I'd rather sit on V1's website and play individual artist tracks than listen to the crap Clear Channel thinks I'll like.

V1, you should start a streaming audio music station for the 'net. C'mon, I dare ya...

Best of the Chippewa Valley Reader Poll…

Jammer

I said UNIQUE businesses, Nick.

You named two lack-luster bars, a burger place (ugh, don't get me started), a great coffee barn if: you like bad coffee or are Christian.

Mancino's is pretty good.

Downtown EC is far more unique than Clairemont. That's not even a question.

In fact, let's make a freaking Best Of poll out of it.

Best of the Chippewa Valley Reader Poll…

Jammer

key word there, Brent, is "concentrated". Clairemont isn't concentrated (it's a freaking highway), nor is it a hub of unique businesses. It's where the Red Lobster's and Starbucks go, due to a combination of daily volume of commuters, visibility, and access.